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Little Fledgling
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PostSubject: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:27 am

Hi - I'm new to this forum having been recommended by Cynthia. She's been a huge help.

A baby wood pigeon fell out of the tree in the high winds on 25th August. He was only about 6 days old, but we thankfully found Cynthia's website which showed us what to do. He's now a gorgous little chap (or lady - how do you tell?) and sits on my shoulder.

We're going to keep him and hopefully find him some mates to pop in a large aviary in our garden as he's too tame to let go.

The thing is, I'm still bottle feeding him. Cynthia told me that hers were pecking at a very young age, but little Tweaty just picks it up and drops it again. I've tried pecking with my fingers and he seems to want to copy, and I've tried making him hungry so he's got to feed himself, but then I get worried he's too hungry and give in. At which time he goes mad at the bottle.

Please help!

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:01 am

Welcome Wendy!!!

I think you should not be too worried about this yet. Some start earlier, some later. Perhaps you could try taking unshelled sunflower seeds between two fingernails and offer him to eat this way. I have done this with our little ones and realized when they fail to pick it up from your fingers they try to pick it up themselves from the floor. Give it a try and have patience. It will work over time...
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:49 am

Hi Wendy,

I am so glad you have joined us, I started a welcome thread for you here :

Welcome Little Fledgling

Wood pigeons learn a lot from other wood pigeons (as do ferals), you can often see them watching the adults pick up seed and swallow it. Once Tweaty has friends he will be able to observe them and learn.

What you could try is to slip Tweaty's beak between your fingers to encourage him to gape and pop warm defrosted peas into his mouth when it is open. Once he gets the taste for them, let him see you pick up each pea before he gapes, so that he associates you "pecking" with the food. If he doesn't like the peas, try it with something else that he likes.

Tweetywood was older than Tweaty whan he arrived and still needed a bit of weaning and readjustment (he had been eating porridge, spaghetti and bananas) but once he was in the aviary, surrounded by pecking birds , he learnt very quickly!

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:52 am

Thanks so much for your reply. He's just been having a go at picking bits out the bottom of his water bowl, then dropping them, looking at them thinking mmmmm.... is that food, and having another go at pecking them.

How do you tell if he's hungry or just picking (or pecking ha!)? I notice his crop always looks more rounded after he's had a bottle feed, and in the mornings you can see his sternum quite obviously when he's not eaten all night. Is there another way to tell - I don't want him suffering. Very nervous about all this at the moment - like a new mother!!

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:53 am

Hi Cynthia - I was posting the same time as you! Thanks for that little tip. I have a freezer full of frozen peas, so will give him a go this afternoon. He's flying around our summer house at the moment - he was desperate to get out of his cage.

We must get sorted on that aviary - will ring the chap tonight as he's not got back to me yet.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:12 am

Hi Wendy,


When they are bottle fed, or fed by their parents, they get their food in one go, so the crop shows as full, but in the wild they forage so the crop t has food going through all the time and empties completely at night. The best way to tell if they are getting enough food is to weigh them at the same time every day.

When I am concerned about whether a pigeon is eating enough I give them a good top up when they go to bed as I can't bear to think they might be hungry during the night, when there is nothing that they can do about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:04 am

Thanks Cynthia - that's a help.

What should he be eating now - I've still got him on chick crumbs, but with some wild bird food mixed in (it's got maize, corn, etc in it, but the bits aren't too large).

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:17 am

That recipe sounds fine!

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:17 am

Sorry for all the questions.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:00 am

Little Fledgling wrote:

Sorry for all the questions.

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Hi Wendy,
Please don't worry about asking questions. That's what we're all about.
We have a wonderful group of 'crazy pigeon people' here and we're always eager to help one another as best we can.

You're doing a wonderful job with Tweaty.
Any chance of posting a or two of him. We love pictures!!

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:13 am

What a cutie!!!!!

We had the same issue with one of our ferals... It wasn't until Cindy mentioned that I should try a baby nipple and put the peas inside, DID we have success. It wasn't as frustrating for him. He could move the peas only so far and the he would gobble them all up a nd the nipple was soft and didn't scare him....he hated pecking at the hard dish....lol.... PICKY... picky Hmmm After that he realized what that meant and slowly I added seed and then put the nipple in his cage... soon enough he was a champ at eating on his own.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:18 am

Thanks - that's a great idea. All this help, it's wonderful! YESS!!

Another question Embarassed how do I insert an image?

I'm not getting any work done this afternoon Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:22 am

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Sorry for all the questions.


That is what we like! The questions keep us all activate and interested and as none of us knows everything we carry on learning. For example, I had never considered:

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then put the nipple in his cage


What a good idea!!!! Of course! He associates the nipple with food and will investigate and start to eat.

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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:30 am

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Another question how do I insert an image?


Click on "gallery"

Choose "your personal album"

Click on "Upload Pic"

Upload a picture from your computer and save it.

Alert me, Cappuccino, Matilda or Fancyfeathers that you have a pic that needs approving. Once one of us approves it it will appear in your album.

Select the pic you want to insert.

Copy the BBCode of picture (not thumbnail)

Paste BBCode staright in to thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Baby Pigeon Won't Peck   Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:44 am

Hi - done my pics - hope that you can find them. There are only two.

Good luck.
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